Pikal Knives (tip down/edge in): The Knife Junkie Podcast (Episode 499)

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Pikal Knives (tip down/edge in): The Knife Junkie Podcast (Episode 499)

On the mid-week supplemental episode of The Knife Junkie podcast (episode 499), Bob “The Knife Junkie” DeMarco looks at Pikal knives (tip down/edge in) in his collection, including the Kopis Designs L-Via, the T.Kell Knives MR-1, and the Ribsplitter Draug, among others.

He also shows off the Fisher Blades Beckwith Covert and teases a giveaway for this brand new knife in the next few weeks on “Thursday Night Knives.”

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Bob starts the show with his favorite comment of the week, followed by his pocket check of knives: the Mircotech SOCOM Elite Auto, RCB Ocoee Kayak, Hogtooth/TKJ NoVA-2, and the Pinkerton Inversion (Emotional Support Knife).

In Knife Life News:

  • New Boker Blends the Old and New with Modern Trapper Uno
  • Latest Traditional from RoseCraft: Nolichucky Jack
  • Civivi Elementum Utility Knife
  • James Brand Expands Its EDC Lineup with New Driver

Meanwhile, in his State of the Collection, Bob looks at the TOPS Backbite–not quite a pikal, but an odd-shaped knife for sure.

Find the list of all the knives shown in the show and links to the Knife Life news stories below.

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On episode 499 of #theknifejunkie #podcast, Bob looks at Pikal knives (tip down/edge in) in his collection, including the Kopis Designs L-Via, the T.Kell Knives MR-1, and the Ribsplitter Draug, among others. Share on X
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[0:00]Coming up, Boker blends the old with the new, a very special giveaway for everyone
coming up, and we talk about Pikal knives.
I'm Bob DeMarco. This is the Knife Junkie Podcast.
Welcome to the Knife Junkie Podcast, your weekly dose of knife news and information
about knives and knife collecting.
Here's your host, Bob the Knife Junkie DeMarco.
[0:27]Welcome back to the show. One of my favorite comments this past week was from Jim Landers.
We were talking on Thursday Night Knives about how do knives fit into your self-defense
strategy, and this was probably the best strategy right here.
Jim Landers says, the best way to fight is to stay sober and keep one's mouth shut.
Yeah, that's probably the best Best way to go for anything in life,
probably. Stay sober and keep your mouth shut.
That doesn't mean you're not listening. That doesn't mean you're not forming
an opinion or forming a strategy.
It just means you're not going off at the mouth. And my dad always said,
like, people don't have a right to your thoughts.
So keep them to yourself until it's useful to reveal them. And I like that.
Next favorite comment was from Booby G. He said, man, I love that you have the
Morrow Blades on the wall.
Always been my favorite from a historical standpoint and just extremely effective
designs um i couldn't agree with you more obviously booby g uh they are beautiful kind of uh,
very exotic looking and uh yeah
just brutally effective uh blades and
also i'm i'm a big variety is the
spice of life kind of guy and um if you want variety in blade and handle design
take a look at the filipino uh blades because it's a huge huge spectrum all
right well that being said let us get to a pocket check what's in his pocket let's find out.
[1:56]Here's the knife junkie with his pocket check of knives today in
my front right pocket in the main position i had
the microtech socom elite auto this one given to me not given this was a trade
uh with dave this old sword blade reviews and he had exactly what i wanted when
i was trying when i I was trying to get this knife and put up a Manticore,
my beloved Manticore, up for trade.
But you know what they say, without sacrifice, you can't get to that next level.
And this is what I really wanted.
So I was grateful at the time that Dave had this very knife.
And I love the Microtex. You know, right now I'm in a huge Microtex phase.
I've been carrying the ludt gen
2 the the one the last one on the market that i
scored that i could find anyway purple anodized i've
been carrying that thing non-stop i've been talking about how i'm not as fond
as the gen of the gen 3 design uh but no doubt if you like that design it will
be an amazing and very very stout useful sturdy and um reliable knife for for
many many many, many years.
In my bouncing around pocket, not in any sort of slip, I had the Rosecraft Okoe kayak.
[3:18]And I love this knife. Like a canoe, it's got a sort of symmetrical handle that
looks a bit like a canoe or a kayak in this case.
And also like a canoe knife, it's got a blade that is canted sort of downward in the handle.
If you open up a case canoe, for instance, You'll see when you open up the blades
that they come at a little bit of an angle, which aids in the cutting and also
has an interesting look.
Well, that's one of the things I love about this knife the most.
Is that sort of odd downward angle. You don't see it too much on too many knives.
[3:57]But Andy Armstrong, designer of this knife and designer for a long time with Rough Rider,
has experimented a lot with different traditional patterns and pushed them to interesting places.
So I love this sort of bellied wharncliffe or sheep's foot. This is like a bellied
sheep's foot on a canoe-style frame.
Anyway, whatever it is, it's beautiful. I love the red covers on this.
I like their bone covers a lot.
There's a knife we're going to be talking about in Knife Life News that I'm
very much looking forward to getting.
But it's sold out. It's their latest one.
Lots of people have videos up, but I'm still going to talk about it because it's cool. All right.
Next up is in my belt, in my waistline at the three o'clock position was the Nova 2.
[4:53]This is designed by me and Matt Chase of Hogtooth Knives and made expertly by hand by Matt Chase.
Just an awesome knife. knife this is a riff on
the um nova one bowie which
was a riff on on his on matt's
edc tanto so just a great line uh
it's the size the handle the ergonomics and then with this nova series we're
just switching out blades uh of my design and he nailed it with this one he
said honestly i wasn't crazy about the kiridashi shape until i made it and saw
how wicked it is and how how effective it is, uh,
both in a, in, in a pushing manner and also in a pull cut and,
uh, you know, utility cutting manner.
Uh, it's hollow ground, wickedly sharp. I've been carrying it for about two weeks now.
And, uh, in, in not this coming week, but, uh, next week we will,
well, yeah, next week is this coming week.
We'll be announcing the pre-order for this. We got a lot of, um.
[5:56]Got a lot on our plate right now, and I'm zeroing in on all the details,
and we have a lot of back-end stuff to do.
And also, any sort of changes that we're going to make, which are very scant, if any.
Actually, I really honestly have, just the sheath, for me, is going to change.
The sheath color and the bottom contour here.
I wanted to round out a little bit more, just to be comfortable on the softness
when you put it in the waistband.
So, color, it'll be a darker charcoal.
We're going to go with this ivory G10 and red.
Not only does it evoke sort of a Japanese feel to me, but it also evokes a sort
of Nordic feel, as does the blade.
It's not a straight-up Kiridashi. To me, it's also kind of sax-like.
[6:46]And the handle, to me, reminds me of whalebone. So, I'm very excited about this new Nova and G10.
Can't wait to release it to the wider world. Okay, last up for emotional support, I had the...
I love this knife. The inversion, the ringed inversion by the great and powerful Dirk Pinkerton.
Look at that beautiful orange peel texture on the titanium.
Gorgeous Picol style blade. You've got the ring here, which is perfect.
You know, not all rings are created equal.
And this ring is perfect because it is jutting out from the handle,
so it does not disrupt your fist in any way. It just seamlessly,
that's an old corporate word.
I'm going to expunge that from my vocabulary.
It perfectly fits the grip without forcing you to alter your fist at all.
So a very, very useful and good ring. Not all rings are useful and good.
[7:49]It's a frame lock and it has this copper sort of wave feature.
It also came with a disc, a thumb disc, which I haven't put on there yet,
but I have the thumb disc on my Kaiser version of the Inversion.
So my bases are covered. This is what I had on me. What did you have on you today?
Please drop it in the comments below. I'd love to find out what you have.
To me, it is inspiration. consideration, whether or not I actually seek out
that knife, because I'd have them all.
I'd have all of the knives and then get rid of the ones I don't want.
That would be more practical if I could. So let me know what you got.
[8:30]Coming up, we have a really special giveaway. Thursday Night Knives are going to be given away,
and Chaz Fisher of Fisher Blades
will be giving away the a giveaway and this
is what he's going to be giving away the package looks
like this here since the knife itself is wrapped
up i'm not gonna wrapped up very classily in a um paper thing with a with a
i voted sticker that's what it looks like to me uh but it's this knife the beckwith
covert i've been talking about it you've seen videos uh from various people
online about It's really awesome.
It's a pocket fixed blade tanto that is really a self-defense weapon.
That's the primary weapon.
[9:22]What's the word? A raison d'etre for this is self-defense.
Very adamantly, very stubbornly a self-defense knife.
And you know that I love that. I super, super love and appreciate that.
But I just want to say to those of you out there who are not into that,
not into carrying knives as a weapon, this actually makes an outstanding EDC.
I know Chaz bristles at the term and the thought, but this does make an excellent
everyday carry, just utility knife.
Beautiful red liners excellent uh handle
and ergonomics you got that quillian there on the
pommel for drawing great place to put your thumb in reverse grip and then presents
the edge in an excellent uh manner in forward uh grip there so this is what
we're going to be giving away chas will be joining us um giving away the knife and then in the package.
[10:17]Comes some beef jerky uh i
think he's on the carnivore diet he's a
martial artist super fit veiny
sort of forearmed guy who crushes your
crushes your hand when he shakes it not on purpose
because he's a jerk but because he's uh he's on the
carnivore diet i think that's cool uh but there you go
right there it gives you some beef jerky that's my snack of
choice at work beckwith's covert manual
by the way this shows you all the places you
need to put the covert if you're going to use it in a defensive way how to carry
it where to stick it pretty cool pretty old school you know uh uh colonel beckwith
was the guy who started delta force and he was no uh shrinking violet let's say the constitution.
[11:07]And, uh, it's AEBL 60 to 62 Rockwell hardness, and you get a little birth card
here, sticker and a bandaid.
Uh, hopefully you don't cut yourself. And if you do, you can never get rid of
it. It is yours. It owns you.
All right. That is what we're going to be giving away on Thursday night knives.
I'm very much looking forward to that.
Uh, I will give an announcement. I have not actually settled on the date with
Chaz, but he's going to be on the podcast soon. So I think we're doing it right after that.
So I will let you know about that. But I'm very excited to be giving one of these things away.
By the way, if I didn't mention pocket sheath, you don't want to wear this in
the waistband, but pocket sheath, it's a great carry, whether forward or back.
I have the left hand and the right hand sheath.
So far, I've only used the right hand sheath, and it goes great all the way
around in all four pockets.
So very much looking forward to that. Okay, still to come on the Knife Junkie
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[14:00]The elementum is to Zavivi what the Burnley Quakin is to Boker.
So endless reiteration in different relevant and sometimes not so relevant forms.
But that's something that I love hate about both The Boker Burnley Quaken And
the Elementum I mostly just like to riff on How they endlessly riff on those
Knives the Civivi Elementum,
I got to say, I love that knife. I got one for my wife with the ebony handles.
And man, it's definitely one of my favorites from Civivi.
They have a new one. And this one's pretty cool. This would be a massive flex
if you work in retail and you're opening boxes in the room, in the back room,
you know, where all this stuff is, the magical room where all the extra stuff is.
[14:52]It is the Civivi Elementum Utility. So as the name would lie,
it is an elementum frame with a utility blade fixture.
So you flip it open or use the thumb stud to open it.
And there is a frame into which you put a utility blade. So pretty cool.
A lot of different companies have done this.
But here, I don't know. This might be the first one to tempt me into the genre.
I'm not a big fan of the utility knife thing, and that's only because it's not relevant in my life.
I do have utility blades that I use every once in a while when I'm doing kydex
or doing some house chore that I don't want to use a knife for.
But usually I'm scrambling to find the right knife in my collection to do those
kind of chores with. But for those of you who have real use for a tool like
this and a knife collection and you'd like to keep that more pristine, this thing is awesome.
Aluminum handle and flipper, thumb stud and button lock.
That's not what you're not seeing in this picture, but it's a button lock.
So it's not only super useful, but it's super fidgety, man.
You got the flipper, you got the thumb stud and you got the button lock.
So you're waiting for the truck as it's backing up to the loading dock.
[16:19]While all the other people are just pushing it out and sliding it
back in pushing it out sliding it back in you've got this and anodized blue
here but it will come in a variety of colors this will be in available this
will be available in may 2024 keep your eyes peeled at first First exciting
utility modification that I've seen,
though Boker has not done a Quaken with a utility blade fixture.
Next up is Rosecraft.
Rosecraft, which I was carrying today. And actually, the release of this next
knife is what inspired me to carry the Oki...
[16:58]Um, kayak today, the Rosecraft Nola Chucky Jack.
This thing is cool. I've seen a lot of people have it. I, I hesitated and then they sold out.
So, um, I will wait for the next, uh, the next round of this, but look at this beauty.
You know, I, I ordinarily, I'm not a huge fan of a drop point blade,
but this one not only has that beautiful long pole and machine ground Well,
it's all machine ground, but you know what I mean.
It has that cut swedge up front, but it also has the overall profile of a scalpel.
So it's got a, I don't know how you would explain it, but a slight,
a very subtle peak towards the tip on the spine and a quick drop down,
nice long straight edge and then belly at the end.
It's a beauty. And it's coming in this dark green.
To me, it always looks green, but they're calling it antique brown or vintage brown bone.
It is beautiful. And then you've got that Rosecraft Rosebud shield, which I'm a big fan of.
D2 blade steel as usual, a little bit larger than usual That blade is 3 inches,
3 inch blade there Which for a slip joint is on the larger side,
let's say That's kind of EDC folder territory,
First run sold out But sign up at the website to find out when they drop more.
[18:25]Okay, next is from Boker.
[18:29]And this is them m blending old
with the new this is the boker modern
trapper uno is what they're calling it the boker modern trapper uno is the second
in this sort of modern rehashing of older patterns slip joint patterns they did that with the barlow.
[18:54]Now they're onto the trapper, and I think that this is a really nice-looking knife.
If you look at the handle, that is definitely a trapper handle.
Here you have bolsters. You have a canvas micarta.
But I like this traditional format, but with the modern trappings, if you will.
The lock, the flipper tab, the 3.23-inch Nitro-V blade.
They're calling it a drop point I mean I'm looking at that It looks like a clip
point to me But they should know they made it.
[19:31]Really nice Deep carry pocket clip But not reversible 2.4 ounces so pretty light
And coming soon This to me is a rugged looking gentleman's folder This is for
the gentleman outdoorsman So maybe this is something In the pocket of a guy
Who's got one of those big heavy jackets,
With the collar up in the suede patches, and he's got a shotgun broken in half over his arm.
You know what I mean? Not broken in half, but opened up a double barrel.
And this is the blade in his pocket. It's kind of got country gentleman written
all over it, but modern country gentleman who likes modern steel.
So I like this knife. I think it looks pretty good.
So that's from Boker. And then lastly, from James Brand, they're expanding their
EDC lineup with a new driver. It's funny.
[20:26]Ben Schwartz of Knife News basically says some people are excited about their knife as a tool.
Some people are excited about their tools that take care of their tools.
Other people don't care. But for those of you who do, there's a new driver.
And by driver, I mean, you know, um, screwdriver, basically a bit driver.
Uh, this one is for lanyard or key chain carry. And, uh.
[20:54]As all James Brand things, it's very designy.
I don't know how else to put it, but it has a lot of attention spent to the
design of it, how efficiently it carries these bits,
how beautifully it does it. And it's a beautiful little device.
It is the size of an old Wrigley's five-stick chewing gum packet.
So it's small. and it comes with what are mostly used out there in the wider
world outside the knife community.
So it comes with a couple of Phillips and a couple of slotted screw bits.
But of course you can put your bits in there.
This is a, I don't want to say collaboration with, but this is, those are Weha bits.
This is to hold Weha bits. And that is a German company that makes the best bits. We all know Weha.
[21:51]That's probably what, once you upgrade your toolkit for taking your knives apart,
that's where you end up because you do your research and you look and everyone says, get the Weha bits.
And that's because they're German and they are hardened, you know,
unlike cheap bits that will just kind of get marred under pressure.
They're hardened. They're great bits. so that's a pretty cool little thing and
i gotta say i like the internal blue area makes it easy to see everything everything
pops with that as the background uh we do have an affiliate link uh the james
brand so the knifejunkie.com slash james brand so you can check that out uh but uh.
[22:32]New addition to their EDC lineup. To me, this would be a good,
this would go well with that little tiny record opening Kurodashi.
Remember that record album, you know, vinyl record album opening Kurodashi they came up with.
I think that was a cool tool. This is a cool tool.
And James Brand, though I like to pretend that they're not cool because they're
hipster design, designy people, they really do cool stuff.
So check this one out. All right. Next up, we're going to take a look at an
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[24:02]So in a moment, we're going to be talking all about Picol knives and perusing
some great examples of them.
And the reason we're doing that is because I have two in-house that I have to
send overseas to their rightful owner, but they're both beautiful and great
representations, representatives of the form.
And I have some others I added to this, But before I get to that,
I want to talk about this unique knife that is on a long-term loan before I
give it away from Dave, this old sword, and it is the Topps Backbutt.
[24:38]And one might think it's a Pakal knife on first blush.
When you hold it, it looks like this. It's a very unique, odd-looking knife.
[24:49]It's designed by a gentleman named Colin Despins. and
it is not so much a
picol style knife as it is a knife um
that is optimized for a certain style of
russian martial art that does what's called uh that practices something i'm
gonna go to the main camera here called locomotion striking so not only are
they are they getting action on the strike out but they're getting action on
the the retraction from the strike and so you add this This knife,
this backbite knife, a lot of
people wonder why the blade is shaped like that and even how you hold it.
It's intended to be held like this with that curve forward.
That curve gets sharp towards the apex here, and it's intended to be a mechanical
pressure additive when you strike with it.
So you're hitting with your fist and you're basically punching through your
target and nailing them with that hooked portion.
[25:53]And then on the return, you have this wharncliffe style edge here to get mechanical
pressure on the retraction.
Mechanical pressure is a very clinical way of saying uh you're really you're
you're tearing backward as you retract that punch so a little bit different
from the pical uh main usage of the call style knife but i find it really a
fascinating uh blade to look at and.
[26:20]And I haven't used it. I haven't carried it. You could turn it around and use
it in such a manner where you're using the wharncliffe as a sort of splitting percussive cut,
which is just nasty. Because look at that oblique.
Look at how steep the angle is to the edge.
And it's got a little relief edge on the bottom.
So it's going to cut. It's going to tear and gouge. But it's definitely not
a slicer. A crazy implement from Topps Knives and Colin Despins, this backbite.
But I'd say not quite a Bacall knife. You could do the Bacall stuff with it,
but intimidating, weird implement of chaos from Topps.
So it comes in that cool sheath, and it has one of these clips.
I think they still offer it with that clip because this is an older school tops.
[27:19]Okay, so that leads me into Pakal knives. Tip down, edge in.
We've talked about it a lot on this show, but I've never cataloged the ones that I have.
And I figured having these two here from Jock's Knife would be a great opportunity
before I send them along to do a catalog like this.
Okay, so first, I want to talk about the one that inspired it all.
Now, the fruit knife, the curved bladed fruit knife is what inspired the big call.
[27:51]Craze. That coming through Ed Calderon of Ed's Manifesto, the quick and dirty
of that is his mother carried around a fruit knife,
a curved edge fruit knife with
her all the time and once defended the family from some thugs with it.
And it left an impression on Ed Calderon, and he went into law enforcement on
the border, drug interdiction on the Mexican side, and found the value in carrying a fruit knife.
So this first one here is my version of that knife.
And it's a Victorinox fruit knife, easily gotten on Amazon.
[28:32]And what I've done here is, per his recommendation, is heat up the handle,
which is just a, you know, plastic handle, and bend it.
So I used a heat gun, but you can use a toaster oven or something like that and bend the handle.
And I recommend you wear gloves and you hold it as it cools.
Otherwise, it will spring back into its original shape.
So heat it up until it's malleable. The tang comes about halfway, so beware.
You don't want that popping out the back. but bend it
gently and let it cool in your hands with
the with leather gloves or some sort of glove and then
you'll have it in that sort of shape now the reason you want it in that shape
is so that when you have it in reverse grip the point is presented at such an
angle that when you when you use a simple hammer fist strike forward the point
is presented where it needs to be as opposed
to uh hooking and pointing downward and and
kind of hitting your opponent or whatever the
threat with that back curved portion of the blade so you you angle the handle
you don't necessarily have to do that but it it it i i think it makes it more
um you can use it in more ways so you can bend that handle and then here i've
wrapped it in two different kinds of cord first uh a 220 uh.
[30:00]225 cord.
Sorry, I had to do the math. 550 and a half, I know.
So that's 225 cord wrapped around and then over that is some jute cord, which I love.
I also love the texture, but I also like the way it looks.
Put a little bit of shellac on it, golden shellac and then light it on fire.
And it gives you a great texture and it dulls down and gives you a great look,
Look great, great texture.
[30:30]It also pulls all of the spare fibers that come off the jute cord and turn it
into a single handle without all the frayed stuff. So it's very, very super light.
And then you can make a sheath. I made mine out of Kydex, but you can use.
I've seen videos where people use a simple water bottle and cut out some of
the plastic and then use a lighter to heat it to wrap around. I mean, that's real.
I like that. That's like survival level knife making.
Oh, by the way, cut a little notch here for the forefinger.
So when it's in your hand, it's a way to index it and know exactly what you're dealing with.
And then here I made a sheath that easily pops off with that little hook.
You can just drop it in the pocket.
And as you draw it from the pocket, this hooks on the inside of the pocket and
you come out with the knife in hand. And here I have Velcro because this actually
lives in my car. Got some schmutz there.
Lives in my car, and this can stick easily to the fuzzy side of my seat.
I also have a piece of Velcro inside the center console that I can stick this to.
[31:44]And every once in a while, you know, I live near D.C., and every once in a while
if I have to drive down there, I'll just kind of have this.
I make sure I have my phone in my pocket in case I get torn out of my car.
You know, phone and wallet in my pocket And then I have this on the seat,
Just in case, I don't know, someone reaches in And I have a hammer in the door
I can trap their hand with the claw of the hammer And if I need to,
use this Of course, that's all just planning.
[32:12]Hoping for the, what do they say?
Hoping for the best, planning for the worst But here it is This is the one that's
basically started it all for me I will have you know if you're looking to buy
a Victorinox fruit knife like this.
[32:25]They do come in two different sizes. This is the smaller size.
I prefer the smaller size. I have a larger one that I've given away or had a
larger one that I gave away.
I think I would always go for the smaller one just because it's thinner, more discreet.
And that's oftentimes why you want one of these. Like that handle would print
through the pocket because I've wrapped it and made it thicker.
But this isn't really intended for that pocket carry.
All right, so building on that pedigree, basically,
Copus Designs teamed up with Ed Calderon to make a more, well,
purpose-driven version of the fruit knife, and that purpose is self-defense.
[33:08]So this is my Copus Designs Elvia.
I have to be careful drawing it out. A great sheath here. You can see the hook.
That's what inspired the hook on my sheath before I had this.
This one I have the ulti clip on, and here it is.
154 CM, very thin blade steel, and an injection-molded handle.
I had Josh Mason of Bright for War Knives wrap mine with purple ray skin and Tsukimaki wrap.
So you can see those alternating peaks and valleys make for an outstanding grip.
Really, this is a great knife, especially with that grip.
Grip but again with that grip it's very
it's a lot less uh drop in the pocket just to hide and stash um but this one
i wear in the waistband it works out fine uh but so here's one of the ones on
loan to me from jocks knife i'm about to send over this is another copus designs uh elvia but this one.
[34:08]Has the cutout on the back and i gotta say it's the very same knife i thought
it was thinner and and all this.
It's the exact same knife, just with a scoop taken out there.
And both are cool, but I got to say, this just looks wicked.
It looks wicked. It does look like a talon or a beak of a raptor or something.
It's just got a real wicked look with that divot cut out in the back.
But it makes for a great thumbswale when using this in utility tasks,
which is definitely what which you're going to be using this for most,
but not just utility tasks.
If you're using this in a defensive slashing motion, it really does give you
a great place for thumb purchase there.
[34:52]These are exclusives at Kniveship Free. Sometimes you see the ads here. You saw one here before.
Not sure if they're in stock currently. Last week they were,
so you can go check those out.
A great, great Picol option. They're wickedly sharp, and as you can see,
they have very thin stock,
so the edge bevel is very thin, and then the relief cutting edge is even thinner, so great for...
[35:24]It's intended purpose. You say, what's the intended purpose?
Why the tip down and the edge in?
It's because it takes advantage of your caveman motions, the things you're going
to do in a real pinch when you're flooded with adrenaline and just trying to
stop someone from doing you in.
And it takes advantage, that tip down and that curved edge in,
takes advantage of the arcing motions of your wrist, your elbow,
your shoulder, when you're doing that kind of hammer fist motion.
And of course, there's Libra fighting where they've codified all of this and
turned it into a real, an excellent defensive system.
It's not just, hey man, but a lot of it is.
And because that's what you go back to, apparently, when you're in that state.
Thank God I haven't been in that state.
This is a wood desk, and I'd like to remain that way.
But if so, it's nice to have something in your hand like this,
which isn't going to fail and is going to take advantage of what your body is doing.
What you're making your body do, but also what your body's doing.
[36:34]All right, next up from T-Cal Knives is the MR-1. One, this one is a variation on the Night Stalker.
The Night Stalker is the most popular knife of all time from T-Cal Knives.
And this is basically the same knife, just sharpened on the reverse side.
[36:54]So very, very same knife. If you hold them up next to each other, they're identical.
It's just instead of the bevel here, the bevel is there.
And this was a request from a Marine unit. I guess it's Marine Raiders 1.
In san diego they wanted
something uh small with a ring that
would work great in very close in environments
uh this apparently i've heard this a lot not not only from just people randomly
on the internet but also from acquaintances and friends who know people who
in clearing houses Houses and
rooms can get bogged down and very close in and they need their knives.
And so something like this that you can index and access with that finger ring
and pull out and know it's in your hand.
And this also works. This ring is adequate for gloves, works with gloves.
And you'll have this gripped in your hand and the way that your body is going
to naturally pull will take advantage of this backward facing edge.
Cool thing about these tecal knives is you can see the striations on the edge
of this one, on the edge bevel of this one, and the nickel boron coating,
which is a material used in guns to make metal slick.
[38:21]Coated on these does make it slick to the touch.
[38:26]Not oily, not like you pull it off and you can feel it on your fingers,
but it just, it gives it a glide.
And I think that's perfect for a knife like this. You want it to glide through
whatever you're going through.
The ring, in this case, again, like the Dirk Pinkerton ring,
you can have a full, perfect natural fist. Perfect.
A full natural fist with that ring. and it really really aids in drawing it
quickly and in my case i have it forward on the front near the belt buckle scout
style um and the width of that sheath and the way he makes those sheaths,
really is perfect it hides it doesn't
hide but it fits the contour of the belt perfectly so you
don't have anything running over top or bottom if you
have an inch and a half belt and it's good to go so that's
the mr1 from t-cal knives now speaking of dirk pinkerton here are my dirk pinkerton
picol knives um well one of them is a fixed blade and i'll show you that in
a minute but here are the inversions now the inversion is a knife that first came out through kaiser.
[39:39]Uh, and here it is. The Kaiser inversion came with two different thumb studs.
One, one that was more of a flat, um, thumb plate or thumb disc.
And then this one, which cants up and over the sides of the blade and allows you to wave it out.
It's an odd looking knife. I remember when I first saw it, I was like,
right, the handle, the knife's in the blades in backwards.
Um, and if you flipped it around, it would look totally natural.
And it would look like a Dirk Pinkerton knife.
But the handle looks like it's backwards. That's because it's meant to be.
It's meant to be used like this, with the tip down and the edge in.
And you have the clip. You can swap it either side.
So when you draw it and it waves out, it drops right into position, right into your hand.
So let me do that again. So you're looking down at your pocket,
your right pocket, and the pocket clip's coming out.
You draw it. It waves open.
Lands right in your hand for Picol usage.
Usage so uh something i like about this s35 vn uh reverse tanto reverse curved tanto reverse.
[40:53]Okay whatever it's it's a you know what it is it's a
it's a recurve lamb's foot if we're going to be a dork about it and then the
terraced uh frame lock titanium frame lock it's it's really kind of a dressy
knife but with that texturing that terracing if It really stays in the hand well.
And with that tip-down edge-in Picol style blade, it's ready for action.
It's definitely a James Bond knife.
[41:23]That tip and that peak there was something that he changed when Dirk decided
to make the inversion under his own shingle.
Kaiser discontinued the inversion, but Dirk didn't. And so he continued onward.
And this was a prototype for where we landed, for where he landed.
And I'm one of the lucky ones who got this.
I know Dave got one. I know Fieldworks got one and a number of other folks. I think Tomas got one.
But just really cool.
Forest green G10 contour, not contoured, but heavily chamfered with a liner
lock, a thin liner lock on this.
But you have that same flipper action. And then you have the waveable tab here on the back of the blade.
[42:17]So that when you draw this thing out, it's in your grip already for action and
you can defend yourself with it.
But you'll notice how the blade has changed through my own input and then the
input of the others I just mentioned and others.
Others uh oh and and some like uh maybe
even your input because i think he did uh some instagram
polls and stuff changing the
blade shape to that more talon like
shape that more bird's beak shape softening out
this peak in that ridge and making it
a more gently curved sort of recurved
wharncliffe now and yeah it goes into material much better people like Fieldworks
have tested it out I have not but going into medium like that really makes a
difference having that smooth and a little bit thinner blade stock and that.
[43:15]Lack of that peak there goes into
material better so it's a better stabber we're going to say
and then this is the final product and this titanium s35 vn version is it is
amazing and a number of us got this he put out a pre-order and i jumped on it
and was very happy to when it came out you You know,
this is one of those things where I did the pre-order and then I kind of forgot about it.
And then suddenly they're ready. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right.
And that was cool.
[43:52]Haven't always been able to do that. I like the deep carry pocket clip.
And this one also came with a black blade.
So folding Pakal, I think it's a great idea. Not only for the size and the discretion
of it, but when you're using it in its intended way.
When you're doing this in its intended way, using it this way,
all of the pressure is going against the stop pin.
And that's how it should be. But you would think in something that takes so
much physical force as this kind of motion, you'd want to make sure that it's
going against the stop pin.
So though it's a weird looking design and it takes your eyes a minute to get
used to, it is a, uh, one of the, one of the safer kind of tactical ways to have a fixed blade.
Um, even, you know, I mean, to have a folding blade. All right.
Next up is from Turner CNC.
This is the other one on loan from Jock. And this is headed out now.
Uh, not now, obviously. Turner CNC LVF V2 This is a bigger one Than the first
one I showed off Also jocked And it comes in this incredible.
[45:04]Ambidextrous sheet You can re-sheet this thing either way It looks like a dagger sheath.
[45:11]But look at what goes in there with this nasty, gnarly, beautiful knife.
This is MagnaCut, and as is evidenced by that M below the Turner CNC logo, there's that M.
Just a beautiful, beautiful blade, root knife style blade.
You've got the finger divot. You've got the curve, tip down,
edge in, tip angled outward a little bit. It beautifully, what is that called?
That G10 is really nice. What's that patterning called? Not knurling.
It looks like the deck of a ship or something.
And then you've got two big screws that unscrew with pennies,
perfectly fit to pennies.
And then in there, there's a small space where you could put something if you wanted.
But I just love the finish of it. It's so incredibly sharp.
And uh i'm glad
to have this one uh in-house just
to check out i mean i'm looking at this thing and uh it is substantially larger
from the last turner uh cnc lv up also a collaboration with ed calderon uh but
this one i would hate to see someone wielding this um but let's take a A quick look at that finish,
that MagnaCut Heat Treat finish is just so cool.
[46:37]All right. So that's the LV and the sheet here has a tracker. Dan clip tracker.
Dan been trying to get him on the show for a long time. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'd love to.
[46:49]And then next up is the drug from rib splitter. We were just talking with rib splitter.
He was just on the, uh, on the show.
I love this knife and he's every Sunday.
He's, he's dropping really sweet, Pekal style knives, but other knives too.
He's got some nice fighters, some utilities.
He just did his first, what was it? Some sort of Nordic utility style knife, not a Puko.
I can't remember what it was, but this is just all Pekal all day long.
I mean, you look at it, it looks like an S almost or a lightning bolt,
very nicely contoured handle.
It gives you a great place to put your thumb on top which is hugely
important uh since this is a sort of percussive
downward strike you could easily slip onto
the blade if you don't have a good traction plan or a way to cap the thumb and
this of course also helps stops you from coming down but your palm could really
engage if you didn't have a way to stop so really excellent ergonomics and then
he does this corrosive effect.
[48:00]On the steel which i think is pretty cool looking
i think it's 50 52 100 rib splitter knives you should check them out if you're
interested in pacal knives and want to get into customs because uh he makes
them they're really excellent and they're reasonable uh they're they are a great
way to get into uh custom fixed blade knives definitely.
[48:22]And you can support a cool dude. All right. Next up, speaking of cool dudes, JB Knife and Tool.
This is the ditch pick. This is the double-edged ditch pick.
So if it's double-edged, is it Pakal? Well, I say yes. I say it's a double-edged Pakal.
Ancient alien theorists say yes.
All right. If you're a dork, you know what that means.
Uh so very very thin 1
16th inch steel uh flexible that's
10.95 the way they uh temper and heat treat this steel it is very flexible they
test it for that but they also test it for um so that's toughness but they also
test it for edge holding and um piercing so though it is very thin.
It is a really effective knife for this kind of call style.
When they released this one, I think this was the first time they offered a forward edge.
[49:21]I could be wrong about that, but I opted for that.
They also offer a half forward edge, which though is a little less edge than
I would prefer, it looks cool.
And if you're someone like me who's shallow and really only care about superficial
things um a knife looking cool is is says a lot but i had to go full edge i'm
like why would i have half of the edge you know there might be that situation
where i'm like oh if only i had sharpened that had the whole edge sharpened of course that's all.
[49:55]That's all just story story making in my mind
but uh to be real this is an excellent self-defense
tool and fits great for me
up front in on a tilt like this in
appendix in the waistband appendix now
this sheath or this blade is so sharp that
i once was resheathing it really fast and actually stabbed through the kydex
so i put another little piece of kydex and melted it on the end there It looks
like one of those muscles It looks like the muscle on a Scallop.
[50:36]All right, got the Discrete Carry Concepts clip on there and really excellent
peel-ply handle on the textured handle.
Next up, from Bastinelli, this is a custom anomaly, tip-down anomaly.
[50:54]A four-knife collection from Doug Markida and Bastien of Bastinelli Knives.
And they all had the same handle this
ringed handle but they had four
different blade styles and this one that piccolo style obviously was calling
to me so i got this and i ordered it from from bastinelli so i could get the
cord wrap he does a great cord wrap and i love the maroon he had featured this
uh right before i ordered it from him this might be the one he featured in
his videos i'm not sure uh but i loved that
maroon cord wrap so i went for it and it feels
great in hand another excellently placed ring uh this one uh has a little bit
more um angle for this kind of manipulation kind of stuff that i'm not going
to try and do under the camera but where you're flipping it around and here
that's what i mean stopping it and making can extending the knife and doing slashes like this,
which I don't know I can't say I recommend I guess if you're really good and
you know you're only going to hit the tip and you're you got some soft fleshy target maybe but.
[52:08]There's a difference between self-preservation and self-perfection,
and a lot of the techniques that you'll see people practice with ringed knives,
those are self-perfection techniques.
Those are techniques that work on your attributes, your speed,
your timing, your distance, that
kind of thing. But that's not what you're going to do in an actual fight.
So, like when you see Tomas, he's amazing.
Tomas Alas of Tactical Tiger. He's amazing with the flipping of the karambits and stuff.
But I know that if he ever needed to use that karambit defensively he wouldn't
be doing all that stuff so don't confuse those things and don't come down on
people when they get all fancy say oh that wouldn't that's not you wouldn't
do that and that's like that's not the point,
anyway I don't know why I went off on that but I do know that Bastien is always
showing off these things in use in his shop and he's very good,
knife fighter martial artist type And he'll take this and in that grip like
this, swipe it against, you know, a piece of webbing this wide or a giant rope and hack it with these.
So very sharp, manufactured by Fox Knives, though this one, you know,
he does make ones himself custom, but this one is manufactured by Fox. Very cool knife.
[53:30]If you're interested in that series, there's a spade-shaped blade,
there's a karambit, and then there's a fourth one. I don't remember what that is.
All right, second to last here in this list, this is another question.
If it's double-edged, is it a Pakal? And I say yes.
[53:47]And that is the Pinkerton Cave Bear.
This is a custom handmade Pinkerton knife. You know, Dirk Pinkerton,
he's got a huge catalog of knives that he has designed and had made by very
respected manufacturers and companies,
most of those being folders, most of them.
But he also makes custom blades. And here is, and by the way, he's a master grinder.
I mean, his grinding is amazing. His handmade knives are incredible. I have four of them.
[54:26]This one I saw across a crowded room at Blade Show 2021, and man,
I was just racing to get there.
I thought someone else would grab it. That menacing double-edged Bacall-style blade.
You could also look at this and say it looks kind of Persian or Middle Eastern,
but that double-edged Bacall-style blade in that black coating, so beautiful.
That's a Nitro V and has a really cool logo in there, has a really cool maker's mark.
[54:57]But all of that contrasted against this happy yellow and red Micarta.
I just, something about this knife is so attractive to me.
It is that contrast, the menace and the almost Ronald McDonald handle,
or the beautiful sunset handle if I oil it.
You know, it's just got a real interesting look, but in hand, oh my gosh.
I mean, this knife, that's about a four and a quarter inch blade, wickedly sharp.
This is a knife that if you ever had to rely on a knife for survival,
fighting a bobcat or a lion, I don't know, something, this would be great because
it fits in your hand so well.
And you cap the thumb there and the blade is just nasty.
Cave bear, I guess that's why he calls it the cave bear.
It's like a giant claw, but you can get them coming and going.
[55:56]I'd like to get another one. I don't know why, but I'd like to get another one.
Maybe with serrations on one side.
I've been seeing like the Station 9 knives have serrations on the back,
straight edge on the front.
I love it. And by the way, though this is a Pakal, you could definitely, There's jimping there.
You could definitely use it in a forward grip like this to great effect.
You could even use it in a forward grip like this and have sort of a gunung
thing, but weird presentation of the tip.
[56:26]Lastly, from Emerson, the Emerson Elvia, another collaboration.
This is the third on this table with Ed Calderon.
He used to carry an Emerson Persian, a great knife. I've always wanted a Persian.
It's a waveless design, as you can imagine, a Persian blade, beautiful handle.
Scandal um and so at one point he
approached ernest emerson uh to make a
folding piccal and this is what they came up with and
i love it they've made a small version which is apparently very small and a
larger version uh this one to me is perfect this is the original always kind
of wondered why they didn't put the wave on there it just doesn't make sense
to me i got this from From Daniel Loewe,
I'm not sure how to pronounce his name, but he was, rest in peace,
he was an artist on Instagram who was getting into knives.
His artwork was absolutely beautiful, and he was getting into knives and was
making different accoutrements for them when he passed away recently.
And this was one of them, that Copper Elvia wave.
[57:42]Which really makes this knife, really pushes it over the finish line,
as well as these Vantage Point Bladeworks contoured linen micarta scales.
In maroon, my favorite color.
[57:57]It's an Emerson. It's got that beefy titanium liner lock.
It's going nowhere. This would be an excellent knife for its intended purpose.
But heaven forbid anyone who any one of us here who carries a Bacall ever needs
to use one for its intended purpose. Heaven forbid. bit.
All right. Well, thanks for joining me on this tip-down, edge-in journey.
[58:22]It's been a pleasure. And I know Jim has loved it too.
So thanks for joining us. Be sure to join us tomorrow night for Thursday Night Knives.
And coming up on Sunday, it's episode 500 of the Knife Junkie podcast.
We are excited to present that to you. If you want to help support the show,
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