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Bob DeMarco [00:00:16]:
Welcome to the Knife Junkie podcast. I'm Bob DeMarco. On this edition of the show, I'm speaking with Jen Lindt of JKK custom knives. I met Jen and saw her work during the last hour of Blade show this year, which was unfortunate because her knives were right up my alley, but my blade budget was blown. What caught my eye were her unabashedly aggressive knife designs, rendered in an intricate, organic, almost primeval manner. Sounds poetic, but you'll see what I mean. By the time I got to her booth, she only had a few tactical EDC fixed blades left a big pickal, and it fits my hand perfectly. Karambit but I've noticed on her Instagram feed that she's been working on something new and exciting, and I didn't get to see that in person.

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Bob DeMarco [00:01:31]:
Jen, welcome to the show.

Jen Lint [00:01:33]:
Hey guys, thanks for having me.

Bob DeMarco [00:01:35]:
It's our pleasure. So this was the first time I saw your work and met you this year at Blade show. Was this your first show?

Jen Lint [00:01:44]:
So it was definitely my first show exhibiting. I've been going like just as a customer to Blade show since 2015 when my knife obsession started. But it was really cool to get the full experience and get to meet as many people as I did this year. And it's really cool to see Blade show kind of returning to what it was after Covid hit, because I remember it was pretty slow after the first couple years of that.

Bob DeMarco [00:02:08]:
You were right next to John Gray and Aaron Bieber. John Gray. I've methemeral just through Bieber, but I love both of their knives. You were in a great spot.

Jen Lint [00:02:20]:
Absolutely. And those are two of some of the best guys you'll ever meet. I mean, John Gray, I don't know how he doesn't get tired of my phone calls, but he's been a really helpful mentor to me and answered all my questions, all my phone calls. So I'm really appreciative of everything he's done to help me this year.

Bob DeMarco [00:02:39]:
That's interesting. His work is very aggressive, too, but at the same time, you know, graceful. And I really like his, some of his pekal stuff, but definitely his pocket knives. And I can see how there is some, how he would be a good mentor for your style of knife. How would you describe your style of knife?

Jen Lint [00:03:00]:
I would describe my style as tactical art knives. I want them to be tough enough to take a beating, but also, like, easy on the eyes in a way.

Bob DeMarco [00:03:09]:
Let's see one so we know what we're talking about.

Jen Lint [00:03:12]:
I'll go ahead and show you one of the knives that kind of first started it for me, and that is my predator model. And that's just a good size seven and a half inch fixed blade, which is fit perfectly to my hand and a smaller hand. But if you have a little bit of a bigger hand, I have a few more models that I came out with to accommodate that.

Bob DeMarco [00:03:31]:
Wait, hold that back up. I think that's the one that I described in the intro as it fits my hand perfectly. Karambit. That's beautiful. I like your, I like your maker's mark, too. Is it like an ace, ace of spades or something?

Jen Lint [00:03:45]:
Yeah, it's part of my logo. I have spade tattoos all over me, so it's just kind of, it's kind of stuck.

Bob DeMarco [00:03:51]:
Well, I often find that with my medium sized hands, karambits have an extra fingers worth, you know, for people with giant mitts, and that doesn't work for me. I mean, for me, for a karambit, that's where it's going to get caught in the clothing or on the arm or on something, and you want it just all blade coming out. So that's something I definitely appreciated about your, what did you call that model? Predator.

Jen Lint [00:04:15]:
That's called my predator. And that is, like you said, most of the Karambits are larger. And, I mean, most fixed blades have big handles just to accommodate everybody's size hand. But for me, with women's clothing and trying to conceal it was just way too hard to have that big of a knife on me. So that knife is, I mean, I designed it perfectly to fit my hand and a female's hand.

Bob DeMarco [00:04:38]:
That's great because it fits my hand great, too. And, yeah, like I said, I don't want that extra because I get in these karambit fights all the time. And if you're not, if you're not concerned about getting it leveraged out of your hand, you're in big trouble. I want to get to how your knife obsession started in 2015. But before we leave Bladeshow, I just wanted to ask you, what was the reception? How did people like your work?

Jen Lint [00:05:03]:
I mean, overall, it was really good for me. I just got a lot of exposure. I got to meet a lot of new faces, and, I mean, someone who was really cool that I got to meet was Tomas with tactical tavern on Instagram. And he actually came over and put my knives to use and showed them off a little bit. But overall, I have zero complaints. I got a lot of good orders. One thing I do that I guess most custom knife makers don't do is I like to take custom designs from my customers and bring those to life as well, just because it helps me push my making skills as a knife maker.

Bob DeMarco [00:05:40]:
So kind of forcing you into doing things that you wouldn't have forced yourself to do if you weren't asked, basically.

Jen Lint [00:05:49]:
Exactly.

Bob DeMarco [00:05:50]:
So, 2015, you said your blade obsession started. How did it start?

Jen Lint [00:05:55]:
So, as a kid, I've always been into the survival shows. I mean, I always had a pocket knife on me, and it wasn't really, like a big set event that did it. But I was scrolling on Instagram one day, and I think I saw some Ron best knives just pop up, like super dressed out, fancy, fancy blades. And I just started scrolling and scrolling, and that never really ended. And I got introduced by a friend to a company called Microtech. And me, at the time, I was interning at Georgia Tech for a kind of like a student internship, and I got to pick what my project was going to be and gave a presentation on that. And I just kind of went ahead and called up to Microtech and was like, hey, you know, I'm. I'm 1516 years old.

Jen Lint [00:06:41]:
I've never made a knife. And I absolutely love your company. I would love to come up if you guys would have me to learn. And I got a call about a week later, and he had me up a couple times. And ever since I've been up there to experience what he's been able to build, it just kind of lighted the spark for me.

Bob DeMarco [00:06:59]:
That's amazing. Wow, what a mentor to. I mean, what a person to draw you in and to show you the secrets. I assume you're talking about Anthony Marfioni.

Jen Lint [00:07:13]:
Yes, sir. I got to work with him. And then briefly, Sebastian Berengi with borcablades was up there as well.

Bob DeMarco [00:07:19]:
So I'm currently obsessed with the stitch. You know, I love that. One of my favorite, favorite knives right now. And Microtech recently. I've had microtechs for a while, but they recently resuscitated my love of folders because I've. I've gone way off the deep end into custom fixed blades. But the stitch and the amphibian this year brought me back to folders, and that's, that's a great, well, that's a great place to go and great people to learn from. Let me ask you this.

Bob DeMarco [00:07:52]:
How were your parents, how did your parents react to that as a project?

Jen Lint [00:07:56]:
Well, at the time, it was just me and my mom. And my mom is a very, very successful businesswoman in what she does. She does a lot of forensic work for the state, and, I mean, at the time, the world. So, I mean, she was the one that helped me get the internship that I was doing. And she's always been one to push me and help me, help provide me with the tools that I need to get to where I want to be. So she drove up there with me. She was working on her laptop while I was in the shop. And, I mean, she's even helped me finance equipment if I didn't have what I needed to get where I was at this year.

Jen Lint [00:08:29]:
So she's been more than supportive for me, and I wouldn't be able to do, do this without it.

Bob DeMarco [00:08:35]:
I love that. I love hearing that. I would be very supportive of my daughters in any of their knife endeavors. They know that. I've made that clear. I'm not sure they have those, but they do. They also love knives. So you started microtext.

Bob DeMarco [00:08:48]:
They really reeled you in. And now when we look at here, hold up another knife, and let's draw a path from your first Ron best or microtech. Look at this.

Jen Lint [00:09:00]:
There we go.

Bob DeMarco [00:09:01]:
Or your first microtech obsession to this. All right, now, if you're only listening, we're looking at about a five inch double edged karambit with a sukumaki wrap and a. What's that thing that's under the wrap called? I always forget it.

Jen Lint [00:09:15]:
It's called a minookie.

Bob DeMarco [00:09:17]:
Minookee. That's right. So wait, I'm sorry, Jen, bring that back up. Let's take a look. So what is this made of? And tell us generally how you go about how you go about making these.

Jen Lint [00:09:29]:
So this is made from 8670 steel. I knew if I was coming out with a blade that was this large, I needed to come out with somewhat of a. More of a affordable option. So I used a carbon steel and a big, another bit like big inspiration for me with my fixed blades. And my karambits is definitely Bastinelli. And just seeing, I mean, I think every year I've gone to blade show, I've come back with at least one Bastinelli. And, I mean, I make all of these in house. I do have the bigger ones, and like, most of the koram bits, laser cut out.

Jen Lint [00:10:00]:
Just because if you've ever made a knife with a hole at the end, you know, the pain of trying to drill and dremel these out perfectly. So it saves me a lot of time doing it that way.

Bob DeMarco [00:10:11]:
I love 8670. I only have. I have two kitchen knives made of it. They're super thin, super flexible, really sharp. They, you know, tend to rust if you don't take care of them. But that's carbon steel. It's. It's a newish steel, I think.

Bob DeMarco [00:10:28]:
Is it only pops that sells that? Isn't that a proprietary?

Jen Lint [00:10:32]:
I believe so. And I think there was a higher level of nickel in it, which, I mean, compared to 1084, you're not going to have as bad of a rust issue. But still, if you don't know how to take care of a carbon steel, it's going to patina over time.

Bob DeMarco [00:10:45]:
Okay, if you would hold that big double edged karambit back up. What's it called?

Jen Lint [00:10:50]:
And this is called my beast model.

Bob DeMarco [00:10:53]:
Okay, so this is, you said you're inspired by Inoue, Bastinelli and Bastian Cove, and he's a, you know, he's a collie guy and really knows how to use his knives. Do you train in this, or are you, when you make a knife like this, are you testing it out? Are you feeling how it feels in your hand and that kind of thing, cutting stuff?

Jen Lint [00:11:19]:
Absolutely. I mean, I always take. Take at least one of my blades of the model, and I put it to work. I mean, it's not something that I go and take classes for to get training on, but I've had a lot of people ask me about it, and I've done some research, and there are a few places around here that do some. Like, if I'm going to learn with a karambit, I want it to be like the actual filipino fighting style. So I would say in a few months, I'm going to branch out and do that. It's just right now with my husband deployed and everything, I've got a lot on my plate, so I'm just trying to manage.

Bob DeMarco [00:11:50]:
The reason I ask is that big karambit, you don't see, you know, usually you see smaller karambits like this, and the blade angle, sometimes it points kind of straightforward and sometimes more down, almost like a straight knife. And when it's short like that, it kind of doesn't matter in a way. I'm sure some Karambit guys are going to start arguing, but with that long one, it seems like you have the point right in the perfect spot to do kind of a loose back fist jab and have that point going where it needs to go. So I guess what I'm trying to say is it looks like, you know, it that you've fought with or learned how to fight with that kind of knife and, and designed it that way. Because the point, it just seems like it's in the perfect place to not just do slash, but also to stab, basically.

Jen Lint [00:12:40]:
Yeah. And I mean, the way this beast actually came about was what we started talking about with the predator is it's the perfect size for some people's hand, but for other people it's, it's very small. And so I kind of was just sitting and looking at it one day and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna scale this up to be twelve inches overall. And if your hand does not fit that, then I can't help you because my full hand fits. I mean, on the regular handle. And when I hold it back here, you have about an inch and a half left. So it's a very roomy knife.

Bob DeMarco [00:13:08]:
Alright, so let's go back to the microtech days. I want to, I want to figure out how you got to be able to make knives like that in a relatively short period of time. So you go to Microtek. What did you learn there? What was your project there?

Jen Lint [00:13:21]:
So I had come with billets of steel. Like I brought a dam of steel, a few Alabama Damascus, just stuff that I picked up at Blade show that year. And we had previously, I mean, my mentor at the time who I was working with the Georgia tech, taught me how to use cad software. So we had designed that and had them water jet out and so I brought them up already cut out. One of them was a super long tanto that was very, very thin. And Anthony just kind of looked at me and was like, look, you know, you wouldn't know this because you're new, but this is something that's probably going to have a lot of issues warping. So, I mean, he literally took this huge piece of Vegas forged steel and just put it in my hands and was like, we're going to learn how to do this from start to finish. So I mean, it took, it took a few days just because, I mean, making a knife is not.

Jen Lint [00:14:10]:
I mean, you can make a knife in a day, but if you want to make a really good knife, it's going to take some time. And we used a milling machine, drill presses. I got to see how to heat treat grinding. They have, honest to God, one of the nicest grinding rooms I have ever seen with ventilation. I'm very jealous, but I mean, he pretty much walked me through everything, all the way down to sharpening for me. I wasn't obviously an expert when I left that day, but it gave me a lot of skills and things to practice with to get good at. Now that, I mean, for me, I have to see, to learn and to do. I can't.

Jen Lint [00:14:45]:
I can watch a video, but I really have to have a hands on experience.

Bob DeMarco [00:14:48]:
So, yeah, yeah. And that's. There's a reason why, like, age old crafts and skills like knife making happen in an apprenticeship sort of environment, like anything important, you know, plumbing, electricity, you have to have people showing you. A lot of people do learn, are self taught. And I admire that. But I like you kind of need to. To see someone else do it, to believe it, you know, in a sense. So you get back from microtech.

Bob DeMarco [00:15:17]:
Is that when you start making work and make. Is that when you start JKK custom knives in earnest? Or was it a. What was that process?

Jen Lint [00:15:25]:
So I guess I would say from 2015 to 2018, 2019. I was still in high school. I went to college and got my business degree. It was more of just a hobby for me then. And I did sell a few pieces here and there, but it wasn't, honestly until last year, right before Blade show, when I just graduated. And I was like, you know, I do not like working for other people. It's not that I can't work as a team with, with people, but it's just when I'm not allowed to be my creative self and go to work and really enjoy what I'm doing, I'm just not happy. So I sat down and was like, you know, what do I really enjoy doing and what could I make? Make it into a business? And that's when I started JKK customs and John Gray.

Jen Lint [00:16:13]:
Actually, last Blade show, I wasn't exhibiting with him, but he let me put a few of my pieces in his case. And from there, it just kind of took off and orders were coming in left and right.

Bob DeMarco [00:16:23]:
Wow. So you first showed epilepsy in John Gray's cabinet. You had a couple of things there and people bought them. And that's what started it. So JKK, what does that stand for?

Jen Lint [00:16:35]:
Jenk. Customs with a k knives.

Bob DeMarco [00:16:38]:
Oh, okay. Oh, okay. I got you customs with a k.

Jen Lint [00:16:42]:
That logo was actually created back in 2015 by my older sister. And I mean, people have told me it first was the JKK with a circle around it. So if you have one of my knives with the circle, you really do have a special piece because I'm not going to be doing any more with that logo. But it's just cool to me that I was able to keep that logo and have it be personal to me.

Bob DeMarco [00:17:03]:
So as a knife maker and as a company, do you have a catalog of designs that people can choose from? You mentioned before that you like taking on the challenge of someone's custom design, but you yourself, do you have a catalog that you go back to or are you constantly making new stuff? And how does that work?

Jen Lint [00:17:24]:
I mean, in, I would say the next few months I have been talking with someone about getting a website put together that would have just like a page that you can scroll through and see all the different designs that I've done. And even if it's an old design, I tell people, if you do not mind to wait and want to get on my list, I would be happy to make you whatever you want, within reason. I really haven't turned a knife design down yet, but I would say one of the most challenging ones that I've had to do, I actually do have with me Washington, this really aggressive recurve style.

Bob DeMarco [00:17:57]:
Ooh, that's cool.

Jen Lint [00:17:59]:
And I mean, what I do when I'm taking on a design like that is I always get a piece of 8670 and draw it out and do a whole prototype. And you know, most people want a stainless steel. So it leaves me with, I mean, normally this one's not going to be as good as the second one that I do just because I've had practice on it, but it leaves me with one to show off to people and base it off of. But yeah, I would say look out for a website sometime soon and I really want to put an option on there to have people where they can submit their custom designs, pick a steal handle material, all that. And then it just comes straight back to me. So that way I'm able to turn things out a little bit quicker. So right now it's singularly me doing my accounting, my designing, my outsourcing. I mean, I do pretty much every aspect of this, which is really cool, but it's getting to be a lot of work.

Bob DeMarco [00:18:53]:
Right, right. But it's a great place for you to be. As JKK grows, you'll know every aspect of the business, and you'll know how to lord over your employees when you have. I shouldn't say lord over, but, you know, you'll know what to look for. Take us through the design process. You know, you have an idea for a knife, and I understand that the knife you were just holding up is someone else's custom design that you executed. But for you personally, when you're coming up with a design, how does that work? Are you inspired by something and then you just start going, or do you set out? I need to make a karambit. People like my karambits and go from there.

Jen Lint [00:19:33]:
Honestly, I mean, what I tell people is the best designs that I personally come up with, in my opinion, are the ones where I am just sitting there. I'm a little bit ADHD, so my mind's constantly turning, and I just have something pop into my head, and I'm like, ooh, I need. I need to draw that and write that down right now so I don't forget it. And I will draw it up, cut it out, and see how it feels in the hand, and then immediately go in. I mean, if it's something that's, like, just a tanto like this, I can just shape that with a blue, not a trizk, but a really aggressive blue belt, like a 26 grit, and profile that out. And those are a little bit easier for me to do. But the ones like the karambits that you saw, I take my cad design, and I have a guy up in Demeris, Georgia, named Josh Peeks, and he works out of Piedmont Metal processing, and he actually, he's one of the rare people that's like, I do not want your money. I think what you do is really cool, but if you want to throw me a knife here and there, we can definitely do business.

Jen Lint [00:20:35]:
So every time I go up with a project, I always bring him a knife, and he's a really big help to me.

Bob DeMarco [00:20:42]:
Will work for knives. Yeah, I like that. That's awesome. So when you're coming up with these knives, I know that some of it is your artful approach and your being inspired by artful knife makers like Bastinelli and those types and John Gray. But how much of this is based on personal self defense? When you make something like this, you have that. I want to see that, Pekal. But also those karambits, I mean, they are nasty, nasty weapons, as well as beautifully created crafts, or not crafts, but tools. How much of that is you thinking about, I could use this to protect myself.

Jen Lint [00:21:27]:
Well, I mean, it absolutely is me thinking about that because the area I'm at, I mean, one, I grew up in Atlanta and two, now I'm a little bit north of that in Gainesville, being like with my husband deployed, for example, I have to go out a lot and do things on my own. And I've had some instances and run ins with people where if I did not have my, my fixed blade or my pistol on me, which, which I have bastion's f bag on my sweet I chest at all times. It's just when people see that you have something, they're way less likely to try anything on you. And I mean, I design all of my, my smaller knives, at least for me to carry, that are completely concealed. I can move around comfortably with them and they are easily ready to pull out. And I mean, I, the way I position a lot of my sheets and I'll go ahead and show that picow that I have is it's going to be positioned to where when you pull it out, you're already ready with either the double edge on this side or the edge on this side with, I mean, I do some partial serrations on this one, but I mean, yeah, if you get into a, I mean, I hope you wouldn't have to get into a hand in hand combat situation. I would definitely recommend one of these just because of the options that it gives you.

Bob DeMarco [00:22:42]:
Yeah. And that natural pulling motion, you know, just with the arcing of your, your shoulder and your elbow and that having the edge on the inside and pulling and tearing. Very natural, animalistic clawing kind of.

Jen Lint [00:22:57]:
Yep. Yeah, absolutely.

Bob DeMarco [00:22:59]:
So you've mentioned your husband is deployed. Do you send him knives? I mean, I'm not sure what his role is, but I know that whatever your role is, having a good knife on you is always a welcome thing.

Jen Lint [00:23:11]:
So where they're at right now, he's in eastern Europe and Kosovo. I mean, I really don't know how much I can go into it, so I'll just stick with that. But from what I understand is he doesn't want to have to worry about getting anything back through customs or people taking things. I'm sure that he could, but mostly what they have over there is just what the army gives them. But he definitely has a pile of knives waiting for him when he gets back. I mean, the ones that I wouldn't necessarily like, the blems, he gets all the blems, and I normally carry those as well, but yeah, he's been more than supportive. I also wouldn't be able to do this without him.

Bob DeMarco [00:23:52]:
Is he also a knife person?

Jen Lint [00:23:55]:
He's not as crazy as I am, but from being with me for close to four to five years now, he loves going to these shows. I mean, he's a huge Bastinelli fan. He has some benchmades, so he's getting his own pace, that's for sure.

Bob DeMarco [00:24:10]:
My wife and I met years ago now, over 20 years ago, doing Filipino Kali. So knives go way back. But, you know, like, you guys, I'm the nut, and she's. She's like, oh, yeah, that's cool. You know, from there. And she has a nice little collection herself and knows how to use them. But I think that every household needs at least one knife nut.

Jen Lint [00:24:32]:
Oh, yeah.

Bob DeMarco [00:24:33]:
To be a functioning household. So I'm interested about your men, like, how you actually got the physical chops to do that kind of grinding. And I know you mentioned John Gray. We're coming back to him and how he was a mentor, but did he or anyone else after microtech show you the actual ins and outs of how the hell do you grind a double edged karambit and all that kind of stuff?

Jen Lint [00:25:01]:
I'll be honest. No, I mean, I obviously use YouTube when I need it, but I have just ground a lot of blades, a lot of practice, and it's just the more you do, the better you get at, and the more you figure out. And it's like I said, I really learned by having that hands on experience. And people tell me that, like, why did you start with the most difficult blade shape? But to me, I mean, grinding a karambit at first was easy, and then I started to grind something, let's say, like a straight bevel, and you get that straight line. That's. That's even harder to me than trying to grind a karambit, but I think that's just because I haven't done as many of them, but I am getting better at it.

Bob DeMarco [00:25:44]:
All right, all right. Hold that back up. That's it looks like a sax and a karambit put together. This is. This is very different in that it's not a curved blade. And, yeah, that's a perfectly straight. That's a really cool knife. Tell us about this design.

Jen Lint [00:25:58]:
So, this is my cleavage model. I named it that just because I thought it was a sexy cleaver. And for me, I really just like having the security of the rings on. On the back of my fixed blade just so nothing will slip out of my hand. And I mean, I'll hold this up, too, when you have my knives. This isn't all like, this. This hook back here isn't just for show. I mean, you could use it as a glass breaker.

Jen Lint [00:26:20]:
You could hit someone on the head with it. And, I mean, it goes the same thing for this. It can be kind of a backup in a way, but this one was more of, I wanted to do, like, a utility style that was also good for combat as well. And it does have a bigger handle. It was one of the ones I came out with after the predator model just to accommodate that.

Bob DeMarco [00:26:43]:
I like when I have the option with a ringed knife to in forward grip, not use the ring. I like rings on my forefinger. I don't like them on my pinky. So I like using that ring as the pommel. And it looks like there's enough room there, at least for my hands to. To do that or to put the. Or to do the pinky thing, if that's your. That's what you like.

Bob DeMarco [00:27:05]:
I so hold that up again. I like this rock pattern that you do on the blade.

Jen Lint [00:27:10]:
The rock grind.

Bob DeMarco [00:27:11]:
Yeah. What. Where does that come from? What's the inspiration?

Jen Lint [00:27:15]:
That is definitely inspired by Borca and the Borca stitch that was. I mean, it was really cool experience for me last year because when I went to my first show, one of the first knives I got to handle was Sebastian's first stitch folder. And I knew from the day that I saw that, that's the knife that I was going to save up for. So it took me, I would say, four to five years. But after some saving, I got to get my first custom stitch from Borka and John Gray. And that one is never leaving my collection.

Bob DeMarco [00:27:46]:
Is that you said by both of them, John Gray is a part of that. Part of that knife.

Jen Lint [00:27:55]:
So I believe they do a collaboration together. Where it goes, I guess, fully the parts are ready and made, and John would grind the blade, put the texturing and anodizing he does on the handle, and whatever finish he chooses to do, it's, I guess, half and half collaboration. I know that Sebastian, it's like working with Mike Bond or Anthony. They all just kind of work together on those knives.

Bob DeMarco [00:28:24]:
I love that. A meeting of the best knife minds, you know? So what's the clever girl?

Jen Lint [00:28:32]:
Oh, yeah, so the clever girl and I actually do have the 3d printed prototype, but I could never, and I still can't carry my stitch in my pocket because of how small female pockets are. I could never carry a folder, and I wanted to kind of take a design. And this came about from a very small, fixed blade that one of my older mentors came up with. And I just kept looking at that knife, and I was like, if this had some modifications to it, this would be the most. I mean, amazing folder for me. Like, there's nothing else that I would want from a folder. Like, just from that subtle curve that you get on the blade shape, it's not too much of a curve, but it is. It's just the perfect folder for me.

Jen Lint [00:29:17]:
And it's definitely inspired by the clever girl scene from Jurassic park with that. A little bit of a raptor claw.

Bob DeMarco [00:29:23]:
Look at this. So you described this as, what, a prototype or what you just call this.

Jen Lint [00:29:29]:
So this. I call it my prototype because when I first made it, I immediately knew, like, there's some things I need to change about this. And I'll go into that with being the size of it. If you have bigger hands, let's say you're trying to thumb flick it out, you're pushing. If you look that lock bar into the detent, so you're going to have a little bit of trouble deploying it if you're doing it with your left hand, no issues at all, because you're not pushing in. But that is actually how I'll show the size difference here. This bigger clever girl XL is going to come out, and I am super excited to bring this one to life. It has a bigger hole for flipping on deployment, and it's also going to be a front flipper as well.

Bob DeMarco [00:30:15]:
That is such a cool knife, I got to say. That is a really cool folder design. Hold up the original one again. I mean, so I'm looking at this. This looks like a top dollar. You know, man, how did you go from. Not. Not that your karambits don't look incredible also, but how did you go from that, which is relatively simple, to being able to make that, which looks relatively complex with the inlay and the.

Bob DeMarco [00:30:44]:
And the contoured titanium and all that? How'd that happen?

Jen Lint [00:30:48]:
It's a lot of planning, cad design. There's a guy up in Mosheim, Tennessee, called Keith edict, and he's been a really big help for the next run of these clever girls. Just because I don't have a milling machine or the big cncs in my shop to bring these things to life just yet, it is next on my list because I just got a paragon and a TW 90 grinder. So I'm going to be going up to his shop to basically use the equipment and bring these things to life for me right now. If I were to make a folder fully in my shop and try to cut these lock bars and stuff, it just would not be the quality that I want to deliver to people. So it's just really getting help from people that are helping me learn and grow every day.

Bob DeMarco [00:31:35]:
So what you're doing is what everyone wants to do. You're having your amazingly, you're having your self designed folder made in the United States, in this case by yourself. And then also with the help of Mister edict, he said his name was.

Jen Lint [00:31:53]:
Yep.

Speaker E [00:31:54]:
Keith.

Bob DeMarco [00:31:54]:
That's what people want to be doing. I know as the numbers grow, it becomes more and more Keith, I know that as numbers grow, it becomes more and more difficult to do something like that. But you're doing it right now with this clever girl model, which is so cool. So what's the philosophy behind this knife? It's obviously, it's an EDC sized luxury. We'll call it folder, but I. It also looks like quite a tactical something or other. So tell me about the design of this.

Jen Lint [00:32:24]:
I mean, I just wanted something that fit really nicely, that went with the natural curve of your hand. And I really like a knife that I can bear down on if I'm trying to, I guess, really work with it. So you have a nice place to stick your thumb up here. And it's also, if your hand is a little bit bigger, this curve on the end allows you to wrap your thumb around and get a really good grip on this. Let's say if you wanted to hold it in reverse for a, a combat situation. So you have kind of a, I guess, a way to use it as and like a Koram bit, while also just having an all around good fixed blade or not fixed blade, but just EDC holder.

Bob DeMarco [00:33:02]:
So, yeah, it's really cool. I really like the shape of that blade. You showed the larger 3d print of it. Now, is this, is this just the size, will you be making them the same way in that larger size? Or is this the way it's represented here with a more plain look? Is this something you're going to be doing on a more mass scale for the larger version?

Jen Lint [00:33:26]:
So for this next go around, I mean, I'm doing things a little bit differently. What I'm telling people probably this upcoming week, I'm going to do a video on it is I'm going to open my preorder list and I'm going to have three options for this knife. You're going to like to reserve your spot you're going to have to put a deposit down and just kind of have the understanding that I am one person and I'm having hands on, on all of these knives. And good things take time. So from August to September, that's going to be a month for people to get in, reserve their spots. And come September, that's also when my husband's going to get back. So I want to have some, some time to be with him as well. I'm going to start basically ordering the materials that I need, get everything together and just start doing them one by one.

Jen Lint [00:34:17]:
And the options I'm going to have on those are a little bit different than what I had this time is you're going to have two. I guess the lower option with price is going to be camo carbon or fat carbon scales on one side as a show side, and then titanium on the other with. And I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with magna cut blades for all these again, because I really liked how those performed. The second one would be a full titanium, which, I mean, I like to give personalized options and kind of tailor make the knife to the customer I'm working for so they could have something crazy like the blue. And I've also been doing some kind of crazy two tone backspacers as well. That would be an option. And the last one will be these fancy mammoth molar inlays. And I'm going to have blue and green.

Jen Lint [00:35:08]:
I'm really excited for the green to have like a bright green gold combination for anodizing. So those will be the three options. I know I'm going to have two or three custom auction pieces I'm doing with some nickel slither sand, mai stainless and mokutai from him. So those are going to be really, really cool. I'm excited to see how those turn out.

Bob DeMarco [00:35:30]:
That is cool. So you're so the ordinary run. That shouldn't call it ordinary, but the run that people can get in on in the month of August has three different options. And you said Magna cut, you were just holding up one with Damascus. Those are only for the special. Special order options.

Jen Lint [00:35:50]:
Yeah. I mean, for Damascus, like, I like working with it, but part of my brand is, again, the tactical, I want you to use it. I want there to be really. I'm not saying Damascus isn't strong, but if you've ever done a folder in carbon Damascus, the, the internal area where your pivot's going to be, if you don't mask it and keep it oiled, there's a chance of rust, and you're not going to have that action like you would if it was a, like, magna cut or M 390. So the. The auction pieces will definitely be the Damascus, but, I mean, I just prefer the. The plain steel. And I can do acid, stone wash.

Jen Lint [00:36:30]:
Stone wash. I don't know if you guys have seen. I actually do have a knife with it on there. My. My splatter finish, which people are calling Van Halen, like Eddie Van Halen's guitar. Yeah, I've done one of those. And then there's a guy named Steve Miller who I'm doing a collaboration with right now who just mirror polished one of my magna cup blades with which I did not even think would be possible. But that is.

Jen Lint [00:36:54]:
I cannot wait to show people that one in a week or two.

Bob DeMarco [00:36:57]:
What can you reveal which model it is?

Jen Lint [00:37:00]:
It's gonna be the. One of the smaller, clever girls. It's the last prototype, and it's gonna be set up this exact same way with the blue, gold and damasteel pivot with that mirror polish blade, and it's gonna be one of a piece.

Bob DeMarco [00:37:14]:
You know, it's really cool how you're doing these in very small batches and american made, it feels like what? Like when Les George first started making the VSEP, and it was the. I don't know, people started talking about mid tech knives. This was probably when you were in high school at this point, but do you remember mid tech? You heard a lot about that. And it was makers like yourself who needed to expand their capacity and have some of the stuff done out of house. But it all goes through your hands and gets sharpened by you. And I like that. To me, that's after this long period of time going to China and having them expertly make giant batches. This is kind of coming back to the roots of a custom knife maker expanding their business.

Bob DeMarco [00:38:03]:
Like the old school way of doing it.

Jen Lint [00:38:05]:
Yeah. And I mean, for me, I want to take as many orders as I can, but what I tell people is, you know, I really want to go through each one of these knives and make sure that it performs exactly how I want it to. Again, my husband was not planning on getting a folder, but he did this year from one that I just. I worked with. And when you held it, there was a little bit of rattle when you shook it, and I was like, you know, this is not something that I want out in people's hands. So for me, that's what I take pride on, is my customer service and my product is if anything ever goes wrong, you send it back to me and I'm gonna make it right regardless. Just because, you know, I've been a customer before, that's how I would want to be treated. So that's the service that I want to offer to people.

Bob DeMarco [00:38:52]:
When I was poking around on your website, there was a great picture of you outside with an old grinder. I think this is a while ago, but you're outside and you're grinding a knife. But I love that picture because it showed your passion for making knives despite. Despite any obstacles, like sometimes. And I am totally prone to this and I've learned to get over it, but that sort of thing, oh, I can't start this. I don't have every awesome machine. I need to be John Gray. So I'm just.

Bob DeMarco [00:39:27]:
I'm gonna wait until I can get that perfect grinder. That picture of you outside, you know, making one of your knives on an old grinder, I don't know, it resonated with me because it's like, by hook or by crook, I'm making this knife.

Jen Lint [00:39:42]:
Yeah. And that, I mean, I'm fortunate this year. I mean, when I got my TW 90, it was a game changer. It was like going from a Honda civic to a Ferrari. It completely changed my game. And what I told people before is, look, you know, it's going to take me a little bit longer to do this because I can't tilt my grinder. I can't slow my grinder down. Like trying to work titanium on a non variable speed.

Jen Lint [00:40:05]:
Good luck. It's just going to melt. And I didn't have the small grinding wheel attachments, so I was doing a lot of dremel work, a lot of hand sanding. And, I mean, from where I came from to what I'm doing now, it's. I mean, I have the tools to. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's how I did the rock grind before, was up on that. That metal wheel to where, I mean, it would be shaking in my hands.

Jen Lint [00:40:27]:
I didn't have the rubber on there. It was. It was an experience. But learning and coming from. From where I did to where I'm at now, I don't think I would have the skills I would if I didn't have to figure those things out.

Bob DeMarco [00:40:39]:
Right, right. Like on the. And that video was. Was not the one I was talking about. Like this one, you were outside. Outside. It was a different grinder and everything. But.

Bob DeMarco [00:40:47]:
But, yeah, the point is learning how to, you know, if you can grind that knife on that craftsman or whatever it was. Then when you get to that grinder, you just said something. Something 90.

Jen Lint [00:41:00]:
It's gonna be like the TW 90 by Travis Wuertz.

Bob DeMarco [00:41:04]:
Oh. Oh, Travis Wirtz. Okay. We all know Travis Wuertze.

Jen Lint [00:41:07]:
Absolutely.

Bob DeMarco [00:41:08]:
So. Yeah. That's got to be such a good feeling, getting the right tool, especially after. Well, it's like you said, you've been driving around the Honda civic. It's a great car. It'll go forever. But Ferrari's better.

Jen Lint [00:41:22]:
Oh, yeah.

Bob DeMarco [00:41:23]:
So what are the knives like? Do you have anything in the offing? I know you're working on the clever girl, and that's like, that's probably a very long term project to actually, before I ask this next question, I want to finish up with the clever girl. What were some of the. Some of the real challenges in design that you faced, going from making karambits and pickals to that knife?

Jen Lint [00:41:48]:
I mean, really, if you have the knowledge and the correct software with CAD, you can take a fixed blade and turn that in that software into a folder, and it does the work for, for you. You can even make the knife move in CAD. So if you're doing things and drawing and just changing things little by little, it's going to take you a lot longer. And, I mean, that's one of the things Keith helped me with, is he was like, look, you know, if you have your design in mind, I can help you figure out the way that we need to design this to where it's going to be perfect. I mean, the only thing that I would say I've experienced in trouble with is trying to get detent right and lined up. And, I mean, having the right size detent ball to where it falls in that hole perfectly and you don't have that rattling. But past that, I mean, having. Just having the right software is going to make your life a lot easier.

Bob DeMarco [00:42:38]:
So basically, he's saying, yeah, come up with what you want the opened knife to look like, and we'll figure out all of the mechanical geometry to make the lockup right and to make it fit within the design.

Jen Lint [00:42:51]:
Mm hmm. Absolutely.

Bob DeMarco [00:42:53]:
That's amazing. I mean, that's a great benefit of this kind of design. Instead of having to go trial and error. Trial and error, you can at least get closer. I mean, I'm sure there, once you bring everything into the physical world, you're dealing with actual materials. I'm sure there's tweaking that happens after.

Jen Lint [00:43:12]:
Absolutely.

Bob DeMarco [00:43:13]:
But it gets you so much closer. What I was going to ask you was, what is the knife? The next knife? You're looking to design something that you've always wanted to make that you haven't yet?

Jen Lint [00:43:26]:
Oh, man. I mean, I'll be honest, right now, my books are. I mean, this is not even including the clever girl orders. Just because, I mean, I've been trying to figure out the best way to do that. You're looking at a year and a half out. So I'm not saying I don't have time to be creative and come up with new stuff right now, but it's just, I'm trying to fill orders. I have been experimenting with some chef's knives lately just because I do a lot of cooking and I do have a lot of chef friends. I used to work in a kitchen, and I'm tired of having these dull kitchen knives I constantly have to sharpen.

Jen Lint [00:44:00]:
So, you know, I sat down one day and I had my little herring style knife, my steak knife that I did, and I did this in AEBL. I mean, some people are like, oh, I don't want a carbon steel kitchen knife. But hearing what you said about the 8670, I was like, you probably know that that knife is going to keep an edge a lot longer than just like, your cheaper stainless steel, your VG ten would. And that's what I tell people. I'm like, look, if you, you want a really, really good kitchen knife, you should do something. I'm not saying that there aren't better stainless ones, but if you're looking for an affordable, really nice, tough kitchen knife, get yourself just a little bit higher carbon. So I've been playing around with that, which doing thin blades like that has been a huge learning experience for me, especially with heat treating.

Bob DeMarco [00:44:49]:
Oh, man. Do you have to do all the grinding after heat treat with a chef's knife?

Jen Lint [00:44:55]:
Pretty much. I mean, what I'll do is I'll take just a small bevel at the bottom and grind it to where you need it to be for heat treat. And then I'll bring that bevel all the way up slowly after I heat treat it. But with something like these predators, where if you look, it's pretty thick. If I try to grind this after I heat treat it, I'm gonna be going through belt after belt. So I will do most of my grinding before I heat treat on those. And another reason you do that is if you're doing an acid stone wash, like when you're dipping into acid, if there is a part on that blade that got way too hot, it's gonna have different coloration than the rest of the blade will. So if you grind primarily all your grinds before you heat treat, you're gonna have that even nice hard steel all the way through and just touch up the edges.

Jen Lint [00:45:49]:
So that's, that's how I've been kind of experimenting with getting the perfect finish on those.

Bob DeMarco [00:45:55]:
But when you're, when you go to make the chef's knives, you don't have that luxury because you have to go super thin. Right. And when you go super thin and then heat treat, that's when you get the warpage.

Jen Lint [00:46:05]:
Oh, yeah. And I mean, you can use a carbide hammer, but, like, to straighten it on an anvil. But if, if you're super thin and you're gonna try to grind all those little divots out, sometimes you can't get them all out. And I don't want my, my knives to have that. So I, I do all my heat treating and then I grind them. And I've been, I guess this week I'm now doing hollow grinds. And I got grind on a wheel like a rubber wheel instead of a metal platen. And that has been a huge game changer.

Jen Lint [00:46:35]:
So I'm probably going to be doing a lot more hollow grinds here soon.

Bob DeMarco [00:46:39]:
I laughed because you said, I guess I'm doing hollow grinds. And to me that seems like a, you know, very conscious decision because it's a. Isn't it hard? Aren't hollow grinds kind of hard to do?

Jen Lint [00:46:50]:
I mean, yeah, yes and no, but for me, the way that grinding against the rubber versus metal, like, all I've ever ground against was metal. And it's, the metal is not forgiving. If you bear in too hard on, on one part of that blade, you can have a line that goes all the way up and you may never get it out with the rubber, it kind of forms to what you're working on. So, I mean, your lines as you're grinding it are more straight from what I've noticed. And, I mean, this was the, the first hollow grind that I did.

Bob DeMarco [00:47:22]:
Yeah.

Jen Lint [00:47:23]:
And I did a compound style, but I, I mean, the edge that I got on it was phenomenal. I have never really owned a hollow grind knife before, but it was a cool experience.

Bob DeMarco [00:47:34]:
Yeah. I'm a big fan of hollow ground knives that all started just from how they look. A lot of my attraction to knives is how they look. And that thin hollow grind, man, it always reminds me of a straight razor and it just means business. But then when I actually started cutting with them and discovering how nicely they slice and how deeply they cut. I love hollow grinds. Yeah. I was under the impression they were really hard to do.

Bob DeMarco [00:48:06]:
But I like that visual of having the rubber. The rubber warms up and gets soft and then it's against the hardness of the steel and it's conforming. And I could see how you could guide it more.

Jen Lint [00:48:19]:
Yeah, I mean, and after grinding on the wheel too, there's, there's something called a rotary platen, which is a flat platen that has a rubber wheel that actually rotates as you're grinding. And that's what John Gray does a lot of his grinding on. And everybody keeps telling me, you know, you need to get one of these. You do a lot of flat grinds, it's going to change. It's going to change your game. So that's definitely next on my list. And I have never seen it done before. I'm not saying it hasn't, but a hollow grind karambit, I really want to try to do that.

Bob DeMarco [00:48:50]:
I want you to try that. That sounds awesome. Yeah, because perfect for that style of knife. I mean, with that point getting in there and then it's.

Jen Lint [00:48:59]:
Yeah, it's.

Bob DeMarco [00:49:01]:
Yeah, that sounds like a. That sounds like a great idea. I want to ask you about the business aspect of knife making. You said that you got a degree in business, but you have this love of this thing, these, you know, knives that are not, it's not like such a common thing that people gravitate towards. So what has the business of knife making been like for you? Having kind of studied it in an abstract sense and then having to put those skills to use in a real sense with knife making.

Jen Lint [00:49:32]:
So, I mean, it's really supply and demand. I mean, I do a lot of my own research by just going through different makers pages, seeing what's popular, seeing what people like, and really just finding, you have to find the product and then the price that you want to have it at and figure out the different steps you have to take to make that come to life. And one thing that, I mean, I'd always heard from people is I wish these people had better customer service. I mean, I'm not saying most knife makers don't, but I wanted to basically, if you buy a knife from me, you have the understanding of, I want you to beat this thing to hell. I want you to show it off. Use what? Like, use it how it's supposed to be used. And if you send it back to me and just cover shipping, I will do a full, like complete spa treatment on it for free for you, just because, I mean, you're, you're out there using my knife. You're putting it to use of what it's supposed to be used for.

Jen Lint [00:50:26]:
So to me that, that's more satisfying than anything. I, I just like to see my, my work being used and showed off.

Bob DeMarco [00:50:33]:
So, so who, who are your customers?

Jen Lint [00:50:36]:
I mean, I have had a wide array of customers. I can't really tell you who he is because he asked me not to. But the way this picao came about is this guy, I guess, for a living, arrests and takes people in. And sometimes he gets himself into situations where he has to defend himself. And he was like, I need the handle this specific length. I need the blade this length to penetrate thicker clothing when it gets cold. And I want you to put your twist on it. That's how that came about.

Bob DeMarco [00:51:08]:
Wait, hold it up. Hold it up if you will.

Jen Lint [00:51:10]:
Yeah, I have people like there's this collector named Ronnie Smith. He's bought a bunch of knives for me who, he doesn't even use them. They just, he has a whole wall where he puts them on display as art knives. I mean, and one of my favorites was the guy who throws knives for a living. And he turned one of my karambits into a throwing knife that he threw like 20ft and stuck in a tree. So I've had a good variety of people.

Bob DeMarco [00:51:38]:
That's cool. I love the idea of how that, what's the name of that pickle knife?

Jen Lint [00:51:44]:
So this is called the Pekal Rick. And if you have ever seen Rick and Morty and know about pickle Rick, that's. I mean the pecal. The pickle. That's how that came about. I like to do some, some clever word choice there.

Bob DeMarco [00:51:59]:
Yeah, I like the idea of some. I don't know what he is, but Marshall or law enforcement guy or Bill Bondsman walking around with, with that pick call designed by himself for that purpose. You know, gotta, gotta hook it into the bad guy to bring him in. That's kind of cool. And yet, it's not a, it's not a benchmade, it's not black. Traction g ten. It's, you know, it's, it's also an art piece. It's like a devastatingly dangerous one.

Bob DeMarco [00:52:28]:
But it has that, all of those characteristics and flares. So as JKK grows, how do you want the, how do you want the company to evolve and how do you want your work, the knives themselves, to evolve?

Jen Lint [00:52:46]:
I mean, I really do not want to scale this into some huge, big production company. Just because for me. Like what? Like, I get to wake up every day and go and do something that I enjoyed and get paid for it, as well as forming really awesome relationships with new people I get to meet. And I want to keep it to the point where I have my hands on every single knife. I mean, I do have the people that I have to outsource some stuff to just because I don't have the equipment for it. That may be the next thing that I look into when I get the funds in shop. Like, more shop space to do is to build my own full shop, get my. My milling machine, and kind of have everything in one spot to where it's.

Jen Lint [00:53:29]:
It's almost a one shot, one spot shop, should I say? But, yeah, I mean, I. I probably will get some help with some social media sometime soon, and the whole website thing, just so I'm not constantly having to go back and forth with people through Facebook messenger and stuff like that and collecting payments. So that's something I'll probably get some help with just to help me do what I'm good at and let other people kind of take a little bit off my plate.

Bob DeMarco [00:53:59]:
Yeah, I think that sounds smart. You can reign over your business and have other people doing some of the grunt work, and by grunt work, I know it's. But cutting out the blanks and all that stuff.

Jen Lint [00:54:12]:
Yeah.

Bob DeMarco [00:54:13]:
Okay. So I would be totally remiss as a husband and a father of two girls if I didn't ask you, like, have you ever thought about making a sort of semi production knife, something still made in the states with the people that you work with, but something that's optimized for. You mentioned women's pockets on women's clothing, if they exist at all, are very small. That's something my wife runs into. You know, half the knives I've given her don't fit there, so she puts it in her waistband, that kind of thing. Do you have any designs specifically for this issue?

Jen Lint [00:54:45]:
Well, what I would say for women with self defense, and, I mean, this is why, yes, I have my folder in my little pocket bag that I carry, but the main knife that I have on me at all times is a fixed blade. Just because if you do get into that time sensitive combat situation where someone's running up on you, you don't have time to flick out a knife like that. And it would be the first knife that I originally designed and came up with. It would be this knife right here, because the handle the size of it's already great. You know, the sheets that it comes with, this kydex with a clip that clips on, you can put it in your purse. It actually fits completely in any jeans or leggings that I have. You can just stick it right in your front pocket and just about. I would say this much sticks out to where you can get your finger in there and just whip it right out.

Bob DeMarco [00:55:41]:
Enough to show people not to mess.

Jen Lint [00:55:44]:
Yeah, exactly. And I mean, it's not something that you really have to look for it, but if you have your t shirt on, you just pull it right over and you can't even see it.

Bob DeMarco [00:55:52]:
So. Yeah. And it's got the camo carbon or whatever that fat carbon handle is. It looks like. What is that? You know, if you're not familiar with a ringed thing and you see the colorful, you just might not even know what it is until it's too late.

Jen Lint [00:56:08]:
Yeah. And so what you were saying about how, like, with the pkow Rick, the, you know, it's not black g ten. It's not just a simple finish. When people ask me to do like, you know, do you ever just do plain steel, black, nothing fancy, I'm like, I mean, I can, but do I want to? No, not really. Because I have probably made more connections just walking around. I mean, believe it or not, I have people that eDC, this knife, and I took it to the grocery store one time and I mean, I got some horrified looks from people, but I also get questions of, you know, what is that? Like, it stands out. Like, do you do this yourself? And I give them a business card and I mean, I've made some, some really good connections and sales just by carrying my work. It really speaks for itself if you're looking out for it.

Bob DeMarco [00:57:00]:
I agree. Couldn't agree more. Let people know how to find your work, how to keep up with your work and get on your books.

Jen Lint [00:57:09]:
So until I have the whole website thing figured out, my instagram, which is JKK understore customs, you can send me a DM on there. I do. I would say most of my posting and all of my sales and auctions in my Facebook group, just because it's a little bit more private, I have it to where you have to answer some questions to join. I know there's no bots or unwanted posts like I've gotten sometimes in my groups that you can't control and just send me a messenger on that. And I really don't like to give out my personal number on the Internet, but if you have my business cards, it would have my phone number, my email. I mean, jKK customknivesmail.com. you're always welcome to email me on there, but until we get, I mean, I may even get a business number, just so I'm not giving my personal number out as well.

Bob DeMarco [00:58:02]:
So, yeah, that's a good idea. And, but, but to keep up with your daily creations and such, go to Instagram and you've got a pretty, pretty active post there and on Facebook.

Jen Lint [00:58:15]:
Absolutely.

Bob DeMarco [00:58:16]:
Jenlint JKK Custom knives thank you so much for joining me on the Knife Junkie podcast. I really admire your work and, and I think you've got a really bright career ahead of you.

Jen Lint [00:58:29]:
Thank you. I really appreciate it. And thank you for having me.

Bob DeMarco [00:58:32]:
My pleasure.

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Bob DeMarco [00:59:03]:
There she goes. Ladies and gentlemen, Jen Lindt of JKK custom knives. Yeah, I feel myself sliding back into a karambit mode. The one she kept holding up, I think that might be the one I held in my hand. I know it fits my hand perfectly, so I'm gonna have to, well, I'm gonna have to look into that. Be sure to join us next week for another great conversation. Wednesday for the midweek supplemental and Thursday for Thursday night. Knives, we're gonna be giving away a lot of knives.

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We're gonna be giving away a knife every Thursday night for a while because og blades just sent me a huge box to give away. So join us on Thursday night, 10:00 p.m. eastern Standard Time right here on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitch. For Jim working his magic behind the switcher, I'm Bob DeMarco saying, until next time, don't take dull for an answer.

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